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DailyTech.com -- One might think that Ford is a bit behind the times with fully electric vehicles. GM is launching the Chevy Volt and Nissan is launching the LEAF EV in 2010. Ford's battery electric vehicle (BEV), the Ford Focus Electric, won't land until late next year.

But Ford's taking electric cars seriously -- they're just being a bit smarter about it, offering more of a "portfolio" of different kinds of electric offerings...

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Submitted Sep 10, 2010 By: DonKofAK

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DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,780 Points:1,169,630 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2010 3:01:06 PM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse that kind of range would be nice if the price is affordable.
YLHandyman Champion Author Orange County Posts:5,008 Points:930,140 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 6:41:59 PM Ignore YLHandyman Report Abuse How about something affordable.
debbiedl All-Star Author Akron Posts:783 Points:653,585 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 7:39:16 AM Ignore debbiedl Report Abuse Waitin to see where the market sectors developmight sound like a good idea, butleaves them in the dust for initial rollout with eagerly awaiting customers. But at least they have models in the pipeline.
DonKofAK All-Star Author Anchorage Posts:869 Points:591,185 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 2:24:38 AM Ignore DonKofAK Report Abuse Quick68 said, "I'll still stay with gas." There are those who said "I'll still stay with whale oil." “History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives.” - Abba Eban
DonKofAK All-Star Author Anchorage Posts:869 Points:591,185 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 2:21:38 AM Ignore DonKofAK Report Abuse Though the entry form said there was ample room for the headline, it cropped out something; the headline reads "Ford's Electric Vision: New Hybrids, 700 Mile-Range PHEV by 2012". 700-mile range by 2012, got it? Chevy's Volt and MPV5 will go about 300 miles before pausing briefly at a gas station to take on less than 13 gallons to continue the journey at relatively high mileage per gallon of gasoline. Using gas, the Volt will go for miles and miles... until the driver can't take it any more. Wouldn't it be nice if people refreshed their knowledge? I'm always willing to change my opinion when presented credible new information. That's why the judges recognized me as an expert witness in state and federal courtrooms. Remember what Mark Twain said; “If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.”
HiGramma Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,789 Points:368,580 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 2:09:48 AM Ignore HiGramma Report Abuse Absolutely fascinating history! I'm from the Detroit area, grew up at a time when "everyone but everyone" in town made a living connected somehow to the auto industry, but I never knew this history about electric vehicles! I was alive then, too -- albeit just a tyke in '67. This is more info to add to the discussion even my former classmates push regarding the supposed conspiracy to impede development of electric vehicles (and alternative fuels). I've always insisted that the decision makers are not purposely aiming for their feet when they shoot down certain projects that conspiracy theorists insist they're suppressing "out of greed." The long and short of it is that greed is a motivator to earn profits, not to suppress them, so the conspiracy theorists have a very faulty argument. I'm still very skeptical about the practicality of EVs for myself -- I have never lived the EV-ideal situation: Only once for a few years did I live in a home with an electrified garage, but that was a hack-job by a previous owner, not up to code for charging an EV. Most of the time I've had to park in an open apartment lot or out on a driveway. I also have usually had long commutes, and frequently minimum of 4hr-ea.-way trips back home for Christmas and summer, where getting a charge on my relatives' circuits would be out of the question. The whole infrastructure has to change to make EVs practical for everyone. I also question the shift of one form of pollution to another, and dependence on one foreign entity for raw materials to another/others. At some point, I expect that any form of fuel will draw the ire of environmentalists.
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:4,378 Points:896,175 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 1:23:30 AM Ignore comprof Report Abuse Much more long term thinking needs to be done before all these decisions of what direction to take should be made.
Quick68 Champion Author Columbus Posts:4,844 Points:758,900 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 1:16:11 AM Ignore Quick68 Report Abuse I'll still stay with gas.
hubcapLA Champion Author Louisiana Posts:2,564 Points:663,830 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 1:13:51 AM Ignore hubcapLA Report Abuse Improve batteries, lower the prices, then electric MIGHT have a chance.
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,073 Points:1,346,190 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 1:13:34 AM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse Ford seems to be making good decisions. But hybrids and electrics are still way to expensive for me. The payout is longer than the expected life of the batteries, then look out for that one in the pocket book.
bobdec Champion Author Florida Posts:6,716 Points:1,324,615 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 1:07:09 AM Ignore bobdec Report Abuse Mistake, electric cars are not good as ecectric power is not abundant enough and better technology is available
Rageagainsttm Champion Author Tampa Posts:6,009 Points:1,447,195 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 1:06:16 AM Ignore Rageagainsttm Report Abuse I'll still pass on this.
AuburnTim Champion Author Indiana Posts:5,704 Points:1,285,990 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 1:05:44 AM Ignore AuburnTim Report Abuse Don't give a dam about Ford or any other car company on their hybrids or any of their other highly overpriced new cars. Will not ever consider any of them until they become more affordable.
roadrunnerMO Champion Author Kansas Posts:5,996 Points:1,234,235 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 1:05:30 AM Ignore roadrunnerMO Report Abuse Always like Fords better idea.
genef01 Champion Author Nashville Posts:2,611 Points:834,680 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:58:51 AM Ignore genef01 Report Abuse Ford generally has a better idea and this article shows their progressive thinking.
divebomber Champion Author Nebraska Posts:3,714 Points:1,345,415 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:57:39 AM Ignore divebomber Report Abuse RENEGADEGAS is TOTTALLY correct!
defcon7 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:1,557 Points:197,525 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:55:28 AM Ignore defcon7 Report Abuse Hey donkoak, you said your piece by posting the article, now it's our turn. So sit back and enjoy! Ford is taking their time because, unlike most liberals they don't just jump into something halfcocked and clueless, they take the time to understand the ramifications of what they say and do before engaging their mouths. It will be years and I mean years before our grid could handle electric cars in the first place, and if others hadn't noticed we are in a recession unmatched in recent memory of most Americans. And the auto industry is not going to save us from this brainless administration's inept attempt to save the economy. It hasn't gotten one thing right yet, what makes anyone so sure they know what their talking about now? Electric cars are a pipe dream, designed for those who can afford to smoke the good stuff, on the east and west coast,or europe. Average americans need not apply!
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:12,067 Points:1,128,155 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:50:51 AM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse Actually Ford is ahead of the times and taking a wait see approach like any smart business would. Electric cars are the vehicles of the future and always WILL be.
CRAZYEDDIE2010 Veteran Author Ontario Posts:294 Points:204,185 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:49:16 AM Ignore CRAZYEDDIE2010 Report Abuse FORD. FOUND ON ROAD DEAD.
Kamakani Champion Author Hawaii Posts:2,388 Points:954,270 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:47:49 AM Ignore Kamakani Report Abuse I like the Volt concept but would like to see at least 100 miles on battery power and after that the gas generator would kick in for unlimited miles. For those with short commutes, gas would never be needed.
Weirdomania1 Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,128 Points:584,595 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:46:39 AM Ignore Weirdomania1 Report Abuse soon to be available?
Huskersed All-Star Author Atlanta Posts:703 Points:337,950 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:45:21 AM Ignore Huskersed Report Abuse Sounds promising, but we're going to wait few more years before buying one.
CobraLeader Champion Author New Jersey Posts:267,902 Points:1,200,750 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:42:29 AM Ignore CobraLeader Report Abuse ... How about, just for fun, make the cars more affordable to the general car buying public? ...
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:8,521 Points:1,666,975 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:41:43 AM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse I think they will be forced to make a PHEV Focus and sooner than they plan.
DosEquis26 Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,765 Points:1,543,485 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:36:49 AM Ignore DosEquis26 Report Abuse read the article? NAW!
DJRIO Champion Author Miami Posts:5,478 Points:960,340 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:28:45 AM Ignore DJRIO Report Abuse or maybe they are conservative about what they do. remember they did not need help from the government at all
Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:5,157 Points:1,203,700 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:25:49 AM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse I think electric powered vehicles are only a gap solution to cut our dependency on oil.
JettaKnight Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,355 Points:1,713,410 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:25:04 AM Ignore JettaKnight Report Abuse oldiesman New York "At least they didn't turn and run to the Government and take there crumbs.My hat is off to FORD go baby." What are you smokin'? FORD showed up at the table TWICE (the first time via their own expensive corporate jet), with their greedy paws WIDE OPEN... until they found out that there were NO handouts, but LOANS... AND the conditions that they had to open their accounting books to the auditors. They backed-off pretty quick then. That's the kind of company your hat goes off to? Shame on you.
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:6,393 Points:1,511,720 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:24:12 AM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse Now Ford appears to have the approach I would prefer. Different electrics for different need and a 700 mile range would be good enough for me. I would think that if anyone can do it, it would obviously be Ford right here in the USA.
zimowski Champion Author San Jose Posts:4,320 Points:1,119,760 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:23:13 AM Ignore zimowski Report Abuse Ford seems to be the most strategic of the American carcompanies.
Scotty99QC Veteran Author Montreal Posts:275 Points:74,950 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:22:22 AM Ignore Scotty99QC Report Abuse Sounds great!
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:3,545 Points:390,660 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:19:06 AM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse Hope Ford is up to this. Let them put the U.S. back on the automotive board.
Sody33 Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:15,482 Points:1,814,560 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:13:03 AM Ignore Sody33 Report Abuse Ahhhh, my stock can only go up with all these wonderful offerings. Go Ford Go!
TheSicilian Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,026 Points:1,003,300 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:11:47 AM Ignore TheSicilian Report Abuse still not so sure about these vehicles
Buck_on_Bass Champion Author Tennessee Posts:5,180 Points:1,040,290 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:09:10 AM Ignore Buck_on_Bass Report Abuse It will be interesting to see what happens when the vehicles are available. I see Ford will be the only manufacturer serving the battery EV, hybrid, and conventional markets.
Bigwaynef Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,665 Points:1,614,935 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:07:57 AM Ignore Bigwaynef Report Abuse Maybe Fords got a longer extension cord...
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:15,402 Points:3,055,455 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:54:26 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Doesn't convince me that this is the true future direction of transportation.
panama303 All-Star Author Denver Posts:790 Points:267,120 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:47:09 PM Ignore panama303 Report Abuse Yep...Ford has a better idea.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:3,826 Points:681,300 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:37:16 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Long read FORD should work on DIESEL HYBRIDS/CNG HYBRIDS then Hydrogen HYBRIDS.
lexusmark All-Star Author Houston Posts:793 Points:315,005 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:36:23 PM Ignore lexusmark Report Abuse keep dreaming
jessieTN Rookie Author Nashville Posts:15 Points:3,465 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:36:04 PM Ignore jessieTN Report Abuse I agree with Ford
oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:4,216 Points:1,763,875 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:34:41 PM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse At least they didn't turn and run to the Government and take there crumbs.My hat is off to FORD go baby.
REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:8,027 Points:1,540,265 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:31:36 PM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse The hybrid is the sensible approach that is already being marketed and further developed. Folks ought to quit demonizing realistic solutions to problems ... especially before "the problem" is clearly defined.
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:5,255 Points:1,985,195 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:31:08 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse Ford is not owned by O'Bummer and the socialists so they can do things right without government meddling
BrucePen Champion Author Ontario Posts:4,670 Points:976,555 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:28:08 PM Ignore BrucePen Report Abuse A sensible long term plan. I'm interested in how many commercial vehicles are bought. A much better test for the technology.
Bus561 Champion Author Lexington Posts:14,076 Points:2,753,105 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:25:32 PM Ignore Bus561 Report Abuse All of the rest of you had better be careful on this one as Ford will probably win that race also.
Lukus Champion Author Halifax Posts:6,026 Points:1,217,360 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:09:57 PM Ignore Lukus Report Abuse A 700 mile range? But what is the cost to recharge and then to replace the battery later on.
Gas_Buzzer Champion Author South Carolina Posts:11,850 Points:2,165,620 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:04:04 PM Ignore Gas_Buzzer Report Abuse I will NEVER own a battery car unless it is remote control.
RickythePilot Champion Author Florida Posts:1,076 Points:219,935 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:02:15 PM Ignore RickythePilot Report Abuse [READ the article before posting a remark, OK?] bwaahaha!
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:5,486 Points:1,133,215 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 10:57:33 PM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse Gas electric is the only realistic approach for now....