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E.P.A. to Study Chemicals Used to Tap Natural Gas

nytimes.com -- The Environmental Protection Agency sent letters to nine drilling companies on Thursday requesting detailed information about the chemicals contained in fluids used to crack open underground rock formations in the hunt for oil and natural gas.

The move is part of the federal agency’s preparations for a long-term scientific study of the effects of the practice, known as hydraulic fracturing or “fracking,” on drinking water and public health.

“Natural gas is an important part of our nation’s energy future, and it’s critical that the extraction of this valuable natural resource does not come at the expense of safe water and healthy communities,” the E.P.A. administrator, Lisa P. Jackson, said in a statement.

The agency asked the companies to respond to its request within seven days a

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pliskin Champion Author Syracuse Posts:4,366 Points:1,348,130 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Sep 16, 2010 4:13:30 PM Ignore pliskin Report Abuse We still have to find a way to reign in the EPA. The current head of the EPA is Carol M. Browner, first appointed by Pres. Clinton in 1993. She is the longest reigning head of the EPA. Many of the miscalculations have been made under her watch. This would include the continuance of the incorrect fuel mileage figures throughout the EPA's history. She is currently known as Pres. Obama's "Climate Czar" and a known socialist, ref. link below: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,148 Points:828,370 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 10:24:23 PM Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse Not unlike Colonel Sanders; there are numerous secret sauces. Each one may have to be disclosed to the feds; but not to become public knowledge. Time will tell; they want our hydrocarbon fuels' costs to rise so their alternative options are less unfavorable.
traindude Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:5,614 Points:1,245,430 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 10:21:28 PM Ignore traindude Report Abuse Honda0105, thanks for the clarification. I guess there'd be MSDS on Coke, but not the formula and the interactions. Didn't think about it
YLHandyman Champion Author Orange County Posts:5,008 Points:930,140 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 6:39:36 PM Ignore YLHandyman Report Abuse It won't work.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,266 Points:1,142,300 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 4:50:20 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse traindude: the problem is that many of the chemical used are "trade secrets" - so there are MSDS sheets, but none that show interactive issues. And the fracking juice is secret, so there's no studies done except by the fox in the hen house.
traindude Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:5,614 Points:1,245,430 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 6:01:14 AM Ignore traindude Report Abuse aren't there MSDS on all chemicals used already?
HiGramma Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,789 Points:368,580 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 5:08:22 AM Ignore HiGramma Report Abuse Government involvement is reasonably needed in public health matters. Look at what happened most recently in Communist China, a totalitarian state that opened up its markets and had a far freer system than ours: Dairy farmers and milk producers poisoned their own children, our children and pets. I'm friends with a couple who adopted a little girl from China before the practice was known about -- she has a kidney disorder, most likely from ingesting tainted milk. We need to know the affects of chemicals added to our water supply. I teach Special Ed -- do you want to send your children and grandchildren to my classroom for a preventable disorder?
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:4,378 Points:896,175 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 1:22:09 AM Ignore comprof Report Abuse Government involvement - sure disaster.
EssexAdri Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:1,025 Points:255,725 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 1:21:06 AM Ignore EssexAdri Report Abuse fracking has been going on for 10-20 years, these studies have already been done, so who is going to be stuffing their pockets with the money for the study that was already done?
AuburnTim Champion Author Indiana Posts:5,704 Points:1,285,990 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 1:00:13 AM Ignore AuburnTim Report Abuse Oh brother another useless governmental study that waste taxpayer money and then makes recommendations that companies are allowed to ignore.
lross94 Champion Author Lexington Posts:1,294 Points:900,705 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:59:36 AM Ignore lross94 Report Abuse Looks like they are getting ready to ban something. I guess that means no more natural gas for us. So much for natural gas being green.
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:12,067 Points:1,128,155 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:48:29 AM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse yada yada yada
CRAZYEDDIE2010 Veteran Author Ontario Posts:294 Points:204,185 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:45:58 AM Ignore CRAZYEDDIE2010 Report Abuse SAY WHAT!
Weirdomania1 Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,128 Points:584,595 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:45:21 AM Ignore Weirdomania1 Report Abuse The only long term effects the government cares about is the effect on the economy... not the environment. So science has to play the game of getting what they want in terms of what the government wants..
divebomber Champion Author Nebraska Posts:3,714 Points:1,345,415 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:44:17 AM Ignore divebomber Report Abuse This is our h2o supply, please get REAL!
DosEquis26 Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,765 Points:1,543,485 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:40:35 AM Ignore DosEquis26 Report Abuse what are you quacking about?
CobraLeader Champion Author New Jersey Posts:267,902 Points:1,200,750 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:39:49 AM Ignore CobraLeader Report Abuse ... Do you mean the Commissioner/Administrator finally woke up? ...
uptherefiners Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,318 Points:683,120 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:32:50 AM Ignore uptherefiners Report Abuse the every six month alarm went off at the e p a and they're busy little boneheads again good to get our money's worth
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:8,521 Points:1,666,975 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:27:07 AM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse Explosives are better known.
DJRIO Champion Author Miami Posts:5,478 Points:960,340 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:26:23 AM Ignore DJRIO Report Abuse pretty ironic
Buck_on_Bass Champion Author Tennessee Posts:5,180 Points:1,040,290 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:21:28 AM Ignore Buck_on_Bass Report Abuse The companies should produce MSDS for the workers to assure there are no health issues from being exposed to the materials. And the MSDS sheets do address the concerns about the fluids being trade secrets.
Scotty99QC Veteran Author Montreal Posts:275 Points:74,950 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:18:00 AM Ignore Scotty99QC Report Abuse Again we are having that problem in Quebec.
zimowski Champion Author San Jose Posts:4,320 Points:1,119,760 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:17:10 AM Ignore zimowski Report Abuse a needed study.
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:6,393 Points:1,511,720 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:16:50 AM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse Another investigation by another governmental agency. Now wait and see what happens because of the California natural gas explosion. We'll have investigations back to back.
Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:5,157 Points:1,203,700 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:13:48 AM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse Good luck in getting any information, or changes.
marvin42 Sophomore Author Salt Lake City Posts:113 Points:297,510 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:12:07 AM Ignore marvin42 Report Abuse Focus2 says: Water could become precious and more costly than gasoline if we have to buy safe water. And why wouldn't that be a great situation for these corporations? Once they are done with gas they will make money all over again with water. Americans, keep going with your idiotic short-sighted ways and you will soon be a third world country - raped and plundered by the rich and powerful while ordinary people are left destitute. But don't let it bother you. Keep voting for and supporting the very same scumbags who make all this possible. [Edited by: marvin42 at 9/11/2010 12:12:49 AM EST]
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:3,545 Points:390,660 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:11:50 AM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse I am surprised that these questions were not asked way back.
1cheapgasin Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:3,145 Points:744,590 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:09:58 AM Ignore 1cheapgasin Report Abuse Idiots!!!!
JettaKnight Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,355 Points:1,713,410 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:08:59 AM Ignore JettaKnight Report Abuse Focus2 Illinois "Good luck trying to find out what they use. They claim it is a trade secret and they intend to keep it that way so they can't be sued. They are even protected and supported by the GOP. I have been contacted lately by e-mail by an energy group to write congress for support of their policy on getting at gas reserves. I have no objection to them getting to the gas as long as they don't pollute our water tables. Water could become precious and more costly than gasoline if we have to buy safe water." Haven't you seen the connection yet? They pollute the water table, they strategically buy water rights, cost of CLEAN water skyrockets way beyond oil prices and they laugh all the way to the bank... again. It's their dream come true.
TheSicilian Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,026 Points:1,003,300 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:08:21 AM Ignore TheSicilian Report Abuse I'm so glad the feds are in this
miamimusic Champion Author Miami Posts:1,848 Points:880,410 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 12:07:04 AM Ignore miamimusic Report Abuse I wonder if the companies will willingly provide the requested information
must87searcher Champion Author Maryland Posts:6,669 Points:1,315,550 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:50:42 PM Ignore must87searcher Report Abuse Could this have a relationship to the to event that BP has with its record breaking oil spill. The EPA could have a increase to to secure this issues.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:15,402 Points:3,055,455 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:47:04 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse How much is the government spending?
panama303 All-Star Author Denver Posts:790 Points:267,120 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:45:28 PM Ignore panama303 Report Abuse I believe that this is a relatively safe process.
ex911 Champion Author San Jose Posts:6,844 Points:1,339,770 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:38:03 PM Ignore ex911 Report Abuse that's really fracked up!
oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:4,216 Points:1,763,875 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:31:58 PM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse Any person that saw GASLAND on HBO should know by now what happened to those poor people and there land. This was all about what happens with hydraulic fracturing, you get deadly chemicals.People have gotten sick and have all different diseases.
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:9,263 Points:1,894,515 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:31:16 PM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse It is time to find out what is really being done to environment while trying to get these products. Conservation keeps your money in your pocket.
REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:8,027 Points:1,540,265 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:27:44 PM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse EPA should be told to "pound sand".
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:5,255 Points:1,985,195 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:21:05 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse have they asked yet HOW TOXIC are the chemicals used to contain and "clean up" the Gulf oil spill, and how much toxic contamination resulted from the PRODUCTS OF COMBUSTION when they tried to burn oil off the surface ?
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:3,826 Points:681,300 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:17:26 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse They do years and years of studies before any drilling starts and now two decades later EPA wants to know whats the MSDS will tell them. The question should be what did the EPA do with the detailed information of their own study in 2004 WHICH THIS WAS FIND TO BE SAFE?????
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:5,486 Points:1,133,215 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:16:44 PM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse Bureaucracy will slow down the production of all oil based fuels too...
Lukus Champion Author Halifax Posts:6,026 Points:1,217,360 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:14:06 PM Ignore Lukus Report Abuse The EPA is kinda late to be checking this now. How many wells have been drilled already?
grouch311 Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,021 Points:1,155,340 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:10:49 PM Ignore grouch311 Report Abuse Gas Buzzer: you read the Constitution. what does that have to do with the news article? and for your info Pres Obama is going to be in your life for a little bit longer
BrucePen Champion Author Ontario Posts:4,670 Points:976,555 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:09:58 PM Ignore BrucePen Report Abuse How many politiions have money in=vested in these companies. I bet a lot more than they want known.
Gas_Buzzer Champion Author South Carolina Posts:11,850 Points:2,165,620 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:03:02 PM Ignore Gas_Buzzer Report Abuse EPA and the rest of Obammie's klan need to get out of our lives. Read the Constitution.
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,303 Points:1,631,405 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 11:02:42 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse Good luck trying to find out what they use. They claim it is a trade secret and they intend to keep it that way so they can't be sued. They are even protected and supported by the GOP. I have been contacted lately by e-mail by an energy group to write congress for support of their policy on getting at gas reserves. I have no objection to them getting to the gas as long as they don't pollute our water tables. Water could become precious and more costly than gasoline if we have to buy safe water.
Dennisjk Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,572 Points:1,494,245 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 10:48:24 PM Ignore Dennisjk Report Abuse Like we should trust the EPA?
915Chief Champion Author San Diego Posts:6,066 Points:1,204,220 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 10:43:36 PM Ignore 915Chief Report Abuse So why wasn't this done in the first place?
OGW Champion Author London Posts:3,347 Points:1,114,030 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 10:41:01 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Our water is much more important to the health of our econmomy than any natural gas or oil wells.
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:6,485 Points:1,384,810 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 10:39:02 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Hind sight is always 20/20.